Homeschooling mother and furniture artist YouTuber Sarah Laeger shares how she came to faith, how God brought her through some difficult times of grief and betrayal into healing and restoration.

The story of Outside Worship / How the group Outside Worship (Marty Mikles, Anna Street, Phil Laeger) came together, and how we made the decision to move into the next season of life

Why worship is critical for The Salvation Army / Following Jesus as a lifestyle; giving people time to “get into” worship; the importance of hymns and contextualization; creative arts groups as disciple-making avenues for young people

John shares how his job working with children equipped him to hold a “no pretense” approach to worship leading. Unbound worship. Excitements and concerns about trends in worship. Promoting unity vs being divisive. Being teachable.

Tragedy, honesty, and humility as entrances into worship / John Copeland shares his testimony of how an atheist called him out on his hypocrisy, how that led him on a path to start following Jesus, and how he got started leading worship.

Welcome to the first episode. An introduction of sorts. I explain why I chose the name First Draft Phil, and share my vision for what this podcast might be…